yes he beat rinty and if im not mistaken jackie patterson as well also a world flyweight titleholder

HI Liz i came across this tonight going boxing records
could this have been your father Billy Thompson

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=325536&cat=boxer

birthday would be a clue there

according to Box Rec issac fought rinty when he was 16 it was issac,s 22nd fight, his first fight was 1932
he was born in 1921,making him 11 years old,so Box Rec have got thier records way off the mark here
maybe try and find out his true record elsewhere like eastside boxing

http://themarket.rushlightmagazine.com/

If I recall correctly, the French champion Emile Famechon came to Lisburn in the early 50"s.stayed with Jim Keery ,and was seen on training runs around the brand new Tonagh estate,Is Brendan Woods the one from Pump Lane, who was in class with me

Yes Frank thats me Pump Lane,s all but gone houses up the steps there still and Brookvale Drive the rest is long gone one of the Famechons did come here im sure he fought Billy Kelly from Derry may have been European title fight but i mind Kelly fighting one of the Famechons there were 3 of them Emile was one of them.How you getting on out there Frank many changes round our area from you left The Big Hall is gone as well im in Kilkeel was in Newcastle about 15 16 years

Hi, Brendan, I'm not trying to be a smart Alec, but the picture to which you are referring does not include Jim keery. The second from left is Jackie Briers.

The line-up is Jim spider Kelly, Jackie Briers, Tommy McMenamy, Bunty Doran, Gerry Smyth and Freddy Webb.

Thanks

Brian

will try and locate this photo again on the belfast forum but im pretty certain keery was in it

Hi, Brendan, I'm not trying to be a smart Alec, but the picture to which you are referring does not include Jim keery. The second from left is Jackie Briers.



The line-up is Jim spider Kelly, Jackie Briers, Tommy McMenamy, Bunty Doran, Gerry Smyth and Freddy Webb.



Thanks



Brian[/quote]


Isaac keery is 2 nd from the right in that photo jackie briers is 2nd from the left,anyone who knew keery will recognise him

Brendan, I was just wondering if you would have a photo of Joe Sharpe, brother of Peter (Al) Sharpe. I have just completed Peter's story. He had 121 fights, and is the only Irishman to have won three Northern Ireland titles - light, welter and middle - at different weights. Gerry Smyth died recently and there was a massive turnout. Needless to say his fights with Jim Keery were mentioned in a wonderful eulogy. I enjoyed reading your messages.

here is joe sharpes record you might get a photo on belfast forum site

boxer: Joe Sharpe
Global ID 31361
sex male
birth date 1937-02-13
division welterweight
country United Kingdom
residence Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom
won 21 (KO 10) + lost 26 (KO 12) + drawn 0 = 47
rounds boxed 246 KO% 21.28
biography





bouts
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date Lb opponent Lb W-L-D last 6 location
1963-06-27 153½ Sammy Cowan 147½ 24-18-2
Carrick, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L TKO 5 8x3
Boxing News 5/7/63

1962-03-17 148 Sammy Cowan 149½ 23-17-2
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W TKO 6 8x3
1962-02-27 150 Ian McKenzie 148½ 3-0-0
Kelvin Hall, Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom L PTS 6 6x3
1962-02-03 151½ Maurice Loughran 162¾ 5-3-0
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W PTS 8 8x3
1961-07-28 154 Paddy Dempsey 156
Tolka Park, Dublin, Ireland L TKO 4 6
1960-07-15 147¾ Tommy Houston 146¼ 5-7-1
Tolka Park, Dublin, Ireland W PTS 6 6
Boxing News 22/7/60

1960-06-25 142½ Sammy Cowan 141½ 18-14-2
Marquee, Fivemiletown, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L TKO 4 6x3
Boxing News 1/7/60

1960-02-25 141 Dave Coventry 136 6-1-0
The Stadium, Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom L TKO 3 8x3
Boxing News 4/3/60

1959-07-15 Tony McCann 7-2-0
Fivemiletown, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W PTS 8 8x3
1959-05-23 142 Ray Bond 144½ 3-5-0
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L PTS 8 8x3
1959-04-04 Tony McCann 4-2-0
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L PTS 8 8x3
1959-02-14 137 Sammy Cowan 136¾ 15-13-1
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L PTS 8 8x3
1959-01-17 141 Tommy Houston 135 5-3-0
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W PTS 8 8x3
1958-12-27 141 Tony McCann 143
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L PTS 8 8x3
McCann's debut

1958-12-06 139¾ Leo McCutcheon 134¾ 4-10-2
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W TKO 6 8x3
1958-09-20 131¾ Trevor Martin 131½ 6-5-2
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L PTS 8 8x3
1958-04-12 137½ Jimmy Hamilton 137 8-15-0
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L TKO 6 8x3
1958-03-31 136 Dick O'Brien 134 3-5-0
Guild Hall, Derry, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W TKO 5 8x3
1958-03-15 136 Pat Loughran 136¾ 3-3-1
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L PTS 8 8x3
1958-02-08 134¾ Jim Fane 135¾ 6-3-0
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W TKO 3 8x3
1958-01-20 134½ Johnny Kidd 131 5-0-0
Leyton Baths, Leyton, London, United Kingdom L TKO 5 8x3
referee: Benny Caplan

1958-01-15 132 Jim Ballantyne 130
Town Hall, Hamilton, Scotland, United Kingdom L PTS 6 6x3
1958-01-04 132¼ George Watson 130½ 1-0-0
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W PTS 8 8x3
1957-12-07 Andy Doherty 7-4-1
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W PTS 8 8x3
1957-10-17 George Mason 4-0-0
The Stadium, Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom L PTS 4 4x3
1957-09-18 125½ Owen Reilly 126 2-0-0
Kelvin Hall, Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom L TKO 4 6x3
1957-09-09 126½ Gordon Blakey 129 1-0-0
Maindy Stadium, Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom L PTS 4 4x3
1957-06-27 Con Mount Bassie 2-0-0
Town Hall, Dudley, West Midlands, United Kingdom L PTS 6 6x3
1957-06-15 126½ Andy Doherty 126 6-2-1
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W PTS 8 8x3
1957-06-01 128 Jackie Davidson 131¼ 13-13-2
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W PTS 8 8x3
1957-04-06 128 Bobby Griffin 136 1-0-0
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L PTS 6 6x3
1957-03-09 130 Billy Baker 130 1-0-0
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L PTS 8 8x3
1957-02-23 131¾ Paul Duffy 139¼
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W PTS 6 6x3
1957-02-02 132¼ Len Donnelly 139½ 2-7-0
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L TKO 2 6x3
1956-11-24 133 Harry Stanford 137 5-6-0
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W TKO 2 6x3
1956-11-17 133¾ Brian Finnegan 135 2-1-0
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W KO 3 6x3
1956-10-13 135½ Benny Patterson 134 1-0-0
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W KO 2 6x3
1956-09-22 136 Roy McElhone 133½
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W TKO 3 6x3
1956-09-01 133 Benny Vaun 128 23-7-2
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W KO 2 8x3
1956-05-05 Billy Skelly 16-15-2
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L KO 1 8x3
1956-02-11 Al Thomas 1-3-0
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L KO 2 6x3
1955-12-24 135 Harry Miller 133½ 0-1-0
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L PTS 6 6x3
1955-12-17 135 Harry Johnson 133 0-1-0
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W TKO 2 6x3
1955-02-19 129½ Bobby O'Neill 126 4-10-1
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L TKO 5 6x3
1955-01-29 130 Dan Hutchin 131½
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W DQ 2 6x3
1950-09-20 127½ John Moore 128¼ 2-2-0
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom L TKO 3 4x3
1950-09-13 127¼ Gerry O'Neill 129½ 2-0-0
Ulster Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom W PTS 4 4x3


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Brian Madden[/quote]

Brendan,did one of the Famechon family,Ray I think, come to visit Jim Keery in Lisburn,It was just as the Tonagh Estate was being built?Another Boxer was Alex Woods from Randlestown,We worked together at the Govt.Aircraft in Port Melbourne,in the early 60's, He was a great Yarn- Spinner.He used to tell of the time he Bred Salmon Terriers to retrieve Salmon from the Pools after he had stunned the Fish by spreading Flax Seed on the water.He was also a keen Photographer with his own Darkroom and many great Fight photos in his collection....Frank

Iremember the famechon brothers 1 of them fought in Kings Hall Andre maybe,Ray beat Billy Kelly in euro title fight in Dublin the 3 brothers also visited Dublin for a Rosary crusade or Pioneer crusade, maybe some other crusade not sure now what it was though.
i remember Alex Woods heavyweight im sure he was,
back in Ulster Hall days
Wether any of the Famechons visited Isaac or not i could not say now,Stanley Orr would be the man to answer that one

Hi, Barney, the boxer second from the right is Gerry smyth. I knew Gerry Smyth well. I was at his funeral. I intend to use this picture in my new book, so I contactd Paddy Graham, the former undefeated welterweight champion of Northern Ireland from the Markets in Belfast. I showed Paddy the picture and asked him did he know anyone in the picture. He just smiled and, without hesitation, said, 'Jim spider Kelly, Jackie Briers, Tommy McMenamy, Bunty Doran, Gerry Smyth and Freddie Webb.'

Brian

Hi, Barney, the boxer second from the right is Gerry smyth. I knew Gerry Smyth well. I was at his funeral. I intend to use this picture in my new book, so I contactd Paddy Graham, the former undefeated welterweight champion of Northern Ireland from the Markets in Belfast. I showed Paddy the picture and asked him did he know anyone in the picture. He just smiled and, without hesitation, said, 'Jim spider Kelly, Jackie Briers, Tommy McMenamy, Bunty Doran, Gerry Smyth and Freddie Webb.'


I AM NOT CONVINCED I REMEMBER JIM/ISAAC FROM WAY BACK ALSO GERRY SMYTH,GERRY USED TO COME TO LISBURN TO SPAR WITH ISAAC,FIRST TIME I MET HIM I HAD TO MEET GERRY IN THE SQUARE TO SHOW HIM TO THE QUAY CLUB TO SPAR WITH ISAAC, THAT NIGHT GERRY HAD NO IDEA OF WHERE THE CLUB WAS AND WE NEAR FINISHED UP IN THE LAGAN,AT THE TIME HE HAD A SMALL GREEN VAN,FOR HIS WORK IN THE MARKETS
BUNTY ADAMSON ALSO USED TO COME TO THE QUAY FOR SPARS AROUND THAT TIME ALSO,IF ONLY STANLEY ORR OR BOBBY GRAHAM OR EVEN ERNIE GRAHAM WERE ON LINE HERE THEY COULD VERIFY WHAT I SAY


Brian[/quote]

This is good craic. I enjoy reading about the old boxers, Surely Stanley Orr isn't still around? He would be in his eighties.
I'm sure I have asked previously, but did any of you know Jim Russell. He was a good scrapper. He boxed professionally, I can't remember his ring name. He was nearer to my dad's age than mine. I don't know how many fights he had, but he was boxing around the same time as Garnett Denny.

For football fans - I'll be at the Arsenal game tomorrow.

Goodnight, and may your gods go with you.

Barney, I am not a betting woman, but if I was, I would put my money on your opinion!

Alan, Jim Wiseman married Helen Morrow (Beano would know her) sister of Bert Morrow the well known jockey from Lisburn. Helen and Jim live near me. I'll give him your regards. Margaret

Alan, Jim Wiseman married Helen Morrow (Beano would know her) sister of Bert Morrow the well known jockey from Lisburn. Helen and Jim live near me. I'll give him your regards. Margaret[/quote]

I remember Bertie well he also boxed,he was a mechenic in one of the linen mills maybe stewarts mill,he rode a good chaser Galloway Braes among others,he won the 1953 King George chase at kempton park on that horse,Bertie rode for Alec Kilpatrick in those days

I remember him singing one night at a party may have been in the Quay Club,he sang The Little Shirt My Mother Made For Me

Looks like nobody new Jim Russell. I remember Bertie Morrow, and I backed Galloway Braes in that race.
Among Jim Keery's opponents, I note Paddy Dowdall. I think Paddy ran the gym in Vauxhall motors in Luton during the seventies.

A Lurgan fighter, Kid Seeley, went the distance with Jim Keery.

I may have written this story in the past, but I repeat it, just in case any of my siblings or their children might be interested:
My dad once told me that Seeley was offering to take on allcomers, and anyone going three rounds with him would get a cash prize. Our da, so he told me, with encouragement from a couple of drunken mates, volunteered. He said that Seeley 'held him up' for the three rounds, and I think, let him win the cash. Anyway, as a young lad, I loved the story. Still do.
Seeley LURGAN reference:
http://www.prewarboxing.co.uk/boxerlists/Slist.htm

Looks like nobody new Jim Russell. I remember Bertie Morrow, and I backed Galloway Braes in that race.

Among Jim Keery's opponents, I note Paddy Dowdall. I think Paddy ran the gym in Vauxhall motors in Luton during the seventies.[/quote]

Hi dabbler i remember Jim (scaldy)Russel he used to knock about with Tommy Lewis i never mind him boxing, though it could have been before my time

Barney, I am not a betting woman, but if I was, I would put my money on your opinion!


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Looks like you would have lost your money Liz,but pending an obj you might get it back

Barney
Jim Russell did knock about with Lewis, and, as I have written somewhere, on at least one occasion, knocked him about. I am not certain about him boxing professionally, but a niggling memory says he did, under a false name. He was certainly far too good for Tommy Lewis in a street fight, even though he fought fairly, using his fists, and Tommy tried every dirty trick in the book.
Thanks for troubling to reply.
If I ever need a solicitor to help me get compensation for personal injuries, I'll use that one you recommend.

http://www.rushlightmagazine.com/[/quote]
Brendan
I'm not sure if I missed this, but I'm looking again. Brilliant stuff on youtube. Evokes great memories of my childhood and youth. Thanks.

Joe

http://www.itv.com/wales/the-johnny-owen-story67811/

SHORT FILM OF LIFE AND TIMES OF JOHNNY OWEN,WHO TRAGICALLY DIEDWHEN CHALLENGING FOR WORLD TITLE IN LOS ANGLES

Thanks, Barney.
I remember Johnny Owen very well. That is one of the best documentaries I have ever seen, on any subject.
Johnny put a lot more into life, and got more out of it, in his twenty-four years than most of us do in seventy four. He was proud of his life while he lived it, and his family are still, rightfully, proud of him now.
No education, no handsome looks, or big muscles, but what a man!

Hello Isaac Keery was my great uncle i know little about him but i know he was a boxer

Hello Isaac Keery was my great uncle i know little about him but i know he was a boxer[/quote]
Take a bow, son.

Hello Isaac Keery was my great uncle i know little about him but i know he was a boxer[/quote]

Hi Jonathan would you be related to Ernie Graham an old work mate of mine back in 50s/60s he had a son lost on the larne stranraer boat years ago??

Hi Jim, Im looking for any photos or anything on Derry boxers from 1950's or 60's for the Billy Spider Kelly Tribute page on Facebook. If u have anything at all let me know. Will be kindly appreciated.