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Cannabis oil and other natural Cures

YES ! To all Cancer sufferers read on................................................

SO after the UK health system told me its "Aggressive prostate cancer" PSA reading 26.5 and needs immediate hormone tabs and injections, causing Many side effects. Then Radiation beamed into my body every day for 7 weeks to "PREVENT SPREAD" not cure !! Then i was informed when it returns, which is highly possible, chemotherapy will be my last chance.

SO I decided to research Natures Natural cures and an alternative to Big Pharmacy Drugs.
After a few weeks taking cannabis oil, plus, bitter lemon plant, ginger, apricot kernels B17, baking soda with lemon, pomegranate juce, juicing veg drinks, cutting out any sugars, no red meat, no dairy stuff with moderate exercise each day ...I,ve dropped 6 kilos AND....... YES my PSA is 5.4 !!! and No side effects, feel GREAT.

Do Not believe all you are told, Do the research. Nature is amazing, our wonderful planet has all we need to live a great and healthy life
Big Pharma are making trillions $ treating cancer with Their DRUGS, wake up world.

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Tony,

Can you tell us a little more about your prostate cancer? Gleason score, Dre, Imageing studies....etc

Fred

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So Tony this is your second post on this forum ( please correct me if I am wrong), and you now seek to champion the wonders of natural therapies as the magic panacea for PCa.

Needless to say, you are hoping to rally the troops so they may fall in behind your line of thinking, given the apparently wonderful news that you have bestowed upon us.

Of course your line of thinking may appeal to those less skeptical among us, and it is true that we do have a vacancy for a spruker of all things natural with Terry's passing, but before I am of a mind to duff me hat to you, please present the appropriate scientific trials to back up the validity of your claims?

As I said to Terry many times both publicly and privately, to pedal misinformation about the so called natural therapies and thus delaying the seeking of appropriate medical intervention, is tantamount to doing a downright disservice. Terry would counter with, "but they don't have to agree with my view" and of course, he had a point. Needless to say the salience of the argument, is relative the gullibility of the receptor.

People in situations of perceived anxiety are usually the customers of snake oil salesmen are they not Tony? Do feel free to shoot my mediocre musings down in flames.

best wishes
john

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I used to believe all that the media, bbc, fox news, the media, my priest, my nice bank manager, my doctor, my teachers, my government and family all, cos why would they mislead me. ?
Then I retired early and had the time to research, asked questions and found out whats really going on in our world.
Big Pharma and their friends are fooling most of you. There has been cures for cancer for centuries, ask yourself then, why are we still dieing from cancers. You need to question, everything. We all now have the internet, so research, Dont just lie down and die folks.
I asked my doctor about other methods of *curing* besides the drugs and treatments. I asked about, bicarbonate soda, lemons, apricot kernels b17, bitter melons, soursop, ginger, cannabis oil and the effects of power foods plus cutting out certain foods like sugar. He almost threw me out his nice office. Nonsense, quack medicine he barked....
WAKE UP WORLD...ASK, you will find the answers if you want to..

Good Luck anyway people.

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If you have ANY EVIDENCE at all about "big pharma" or any so called natural cures B17 etc (ROFLMAO) please post.
Otherwise it's bull#$&t

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There is so much evidence, have you not tried to Google or are you waiting for big pharma to give yo a cure, you,ll be waiting a long time if so.
You have access to the truth, dont wait to be drip fed from fox news, or, get someone else, like me, to show you the trees. The evidence is all there IF you care to open your mind and look. I know a few like you that refuse to believe unless they read it in the tabloids.

Best of luck anyway

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Piffle Tony.

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OK John, keep taking your medication then. But The world around you is awakening.

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Thank you Tony, but I will stick with my medicated slumber. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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Tony,
There is a Nobel Prize waiting for the first researcher who discovers a way to cure all cancers. There are thousands of researchers in government/hospital labs who are highly motivated and not by money. I will believe in your cure once you or someone else gets the Nobel Prize for it.

On the other hand, if you continue to lose wieght at the same rate I guess you will have cured your cancer by dying from something else first. Also, if you believe in your cure (the placebo effect really can cure almost any disease for someone somewhere but it may not be you) it just might work but get some conventional treatment too.

Cannabis oil may well have some really useful medical properties. I heard a talk from a paliative care doctor that has been experimenting with it and they found it was helping a lot, but not to actually cure the cancer but to allow patients to be more comfortable and have a better quality of life.

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Rick Simpson replied to a comment on this.
Rick Simpson with Dawn Savoie Goss and 3 others
22 November at 05:00 ·

“When every other human being of the planet knows that cannabis oil kills cancers how can anyone stand in the way?”
- Rick Simpson
“When every other human being of the planet knows that cannabis oil kills cancers how can anyone stand in the way?” - Rick Simpson

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Guys,


I'm sure that many of us who have read widely and been involved in the battle against PCa for many years are as p***ed off as I am with Tony's persistent advocacy of quackery. He has been challenged to provide evidence for his extraordinary views and has failed. This tells its own story. I think this correspondence should be ended as it does not help any contributor to this forum. Indeed it is positively dangerous to mislead people with false hopes.

I trust the site moderator will do what he can to restore sanity to our proceedings.

OC in England

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We are all trying to solve this huge epidemic. I have an alternative view to radiation, chemo and surgery, WHY do you want my views terminated ? Is this site only for conformist that listen only to the Powers that be and bow to BIG PHARMA if so ban me. I am trying to help, I,m not blocking the real truth that many are scared or Lazy to investigate. So sorry if this runs against your conformist ways. The www has billions of views, try lookin at some.

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Dr Max Gerson, who in 1938 made a discovery that his safe natural treatment for cancer patients held enormous promise. He was getting people well by using something that could not be patented – vegetables!!

By guest writer Dr. Dennis Antoine.

http://bit.ly/V1NKf3
The Biggest Moneymaker of all Time: Cancer, and Why the Profiteers Don't Want a Cure | Wake Up World
Dr Max Gerson, who in 1938 made a discovery that his safe natural treatment for cancer patients held enormous promise. He was getting people well by...
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Tony LOL.

my gleason 9, stage2, grade 5 cancer was cured by big pharma along with a team of most excellent Drs, no snake oil involved.

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well done warwick, i,m sure there are many like you that endure the ghastly effects of treatments and survive, but many more go through an horrific period of "treatment" only to die prematurely.

I just wanted to give fellow cancer victims the heads up on treatments that have been with us for hundreds of years, but since the pharmaceutical industry took the rains with their alternative potions, monopolizing health care, (making trillions $ in the process) around the 1930,s, these original cures, made from natural ingredients have been hidden from us. We now have the means (through the internet) to search for the truth and take charge of our own destiny.

Fellow sufferers, this is a crucial time. Sit down and surf "ALL" the options, not just the urologists prognosis and treatments.

There will be uninformed sceptics that only believe in big pharma treatments and opinions, but plough on. Its the most important stage in Your life so be sure you are doing whats right for YOU.

Below is a small sample of the millions of testimonies that you may come across, do yourself or a loved one a great service and read some.

Good luck to you all and have a long and healthy life.

Wake Up World
27 November at 18:00 ·

Dr Max Gerson, who in 1938 made a discovery that his safe natural treatment for cancer patients held enormous promise. He was getting people well by using something that could not be patented – vegetables!!

By guest writer Dr. Dennis Antoine.

http://bit.ly/V1NKf3
The Biggest Moneymaker of all Time: Cancer, and Why the Profiteers Don't Want a Cure | Wake Up World
Dr Max Gerson, who in 1938 made a discovery that his safe natural treatment for cancer patients held enormous promise. He was getting people well by...
wakeup-world.com

When Vernon Johnston was diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer, his options were few.
Stage 4 Cancer Gone With Baking Soda Treatment - See How Easy It Is Here!
A wonderful article from Rise Earth (source): When Vernon Johnston was diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer, his options were few. The standard...
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Wake Up World with Ashu M. Gebre and 17 others
Yesterday at 02:00 ·
Wake Up World
27 November at 18:00 ·

Dr Max Gerson, who in 1938 made a discovery that his safe natural treatment for cancer patients held enormous promise. He was getting people well by using something that could not be patented – vegetables!!

By guest writer Dr. Dennis Antoine.

http://bit.ly/V1NKf3

The Biggest Moneymaker of all Time: Cancer, and Why the Profiteers Don't Want a Cure | Wake Up World
Dr Max Gerson, who in 1938 made a discovery that his safe natural treatment for cancer patients held enormous promise. He was getting people well by...
wakeup-world.com

http://wakeup-world.com
http://wakeup-world.com

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you make claims but do not support them with evidence, a testimony is not evidence.

your assumption that my treatment was ghastly is amazing, I thought the dentist was worse.

Maybe Gerson (LOL) therapy can fix my teeth too.

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You got threw the net sir, well done. Hope I can help others not so lucky and without use of the WWW. Research a bit warwick, dont just knock the enlightened ones. Dont you know cancer is a business ? End of, I want others to contribute, not a 2 way discussion, bye.

READ ON IF YOU DARE...

15 Of The Best Quotes and Statements On Why Cancer Treatment Kills People
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The cancer industry tells us some of the most magnificent lies about the safety of toxic chemotherapy treatments and long-term survival rates related to the poisonous practice. Few doctors and scientists will put their reputations on the line to expose this fraudulent source of disease called a treatment. We will one day look back on the practice of “cut, burn or poisoning” cancer as perhaps the most barbaric and one of the largest failures of mainstream medicine. We’ve been warned, but the message is still not getting through.

First some convincing facts from decades past on the corruption of conventional cancer treatment (“from Reclaiming Our Health: Exploding the Medical Myth and Embracing the Source of True Healing by John Robbins):

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“Percentage of cancer patients whose lives are predictably saved by chemotherapy – 3%
Conclusive evidence (majority of cancers) that chemotherapy has any positive influence on survival or quality of life – none.
Percentage of oncologists who said if they had cancer they would not participate in chemotherapy trials due to its “ineffectiveness and its unacceptable toxicity” – 75%
Percentage of people with cancer in the U.S. who receive chemotherapy – 75%.
Company that accounts for nearly half of the chemotherapy sales in the world – Bristol-Meyers Squibb.
Chairman of the board of Bristol-Meyers – Richard L. Gelb.
Mr. Gelb’s other job: vice chairman, board of overseers, board of managers, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, World’s largest private cancer treatment and research center.
Chairman, Memorial Sloan-Kettering’s board of overseers, board of managers – John S. Reed.
Reed’s other job – director, Philip Morris (tobacco company).
Director, Ivax, Inc., a prominent chemotherapy company – Samuel Broder.
Broder’s other job (until 1995) – executive director, National Cancer Institute.

ADDITIONAL FACTS:

radiation-induced secondary cancers have exploded in the last two decades due to radiation treatment
90% of chemotherapy patients die 10-15 years after treatment and the causes is never attributed to treatment
patients who undergo chemo are 14 times more likely to develop leukemia and 6 times more likely to develop cancer of the bones, joints, and soft tissues than those patients who do not undergo chemotherapy
chemotherapy drugs directly damage DNA
chemotherapy boosts cancer growth
68% increase in chemo drugs since 2003
75% increase in cancer projected by 2030

15 of the Most Notable Quotes and Statements on Conventional Cancer Treatment

1) “He said, “I’m giving cancer patients over here at this major cancer clinic drugs that are killing them, and I can’t stop it because they say the protocol’s what’s important.” And I say, “But the patient’s not doing well.” They say, “The protocol’s what’s important, not the patient.” And he said, “You can’t believe what goes on in the name of medicine and science in this country.” (Gary Null)

2) “According to medical associations, the notorious and dangerous side effects of drugs have become the fourth main cause of death after infarction, cancer, and apoplexy” (Journal of the American Medical Association, April 15, 1998)

3) “97 percent of the time chemotherapy does not work. So why is it still used? There’s one reason and one reason only…money.” (Peter Glidden, N.D)

4) “We have a multi-billion dollar industry that is killing people, right and left, just for financial gain. Their idea of research is to see whether two doses of this poison is better than three doses of that poison.” (Glen Warner, M.D. oncologist)

5) “My clinical experience is that in America, when people die from cancer, they are NOT actually dying from cancer, but instead, they are dying from the medical TREATMENT itself. They are dying from the chemotherapy, radiation and surgery. AGAIN: They are NOT dying from the cancer–they are being killed by the medical doctors and their medical treatment!” (Richard Shulze, N.D., M.H.)

6) “In the end there is no proof that chemotherapy in the vast majority of cases actually extends life.” “The great success stories of chemotherapy were always in relatively obscure types of cancer. Childhood leukemia constitutes less than two percent of all cancers and many of chemotherapy’s other successes were in diseases so rare that many clinicians had never even seen a single case (Burkitt’s lymphoma, choriocarcinoma, etc.)” (Dr Ralph Moss, Ph.D.)

7) “Many oncologists recommend chemotherapy for almost any type of cancer, with a faith that is unshaken by the almost constant failures”. (Albert Braverman, MD, “Medical Oncology in the 90s”, Lancet, 1991, Vol. 337, p. 901)

8) Since the 1950s, evidence has steadily accumulated that surgery, radiation, and chemotherapy are far less effective than the public is being led to believe. Investigative journalist Daniel Greenberg, writing in the Columbia Journalism Review in 1975, produced the first widely reported expose showing that cancer survival rates since the 1950s had not progressed, and that improvements from 1930 to 1950 were mainly a consequence of improved hospital nursing care and support systems. Greenberg found that even the valid improvements were very, very small, and that there had been no significant advancements in treating any of the major forms of cancer. (When Healing Becomes a Crime –Kenny Ausubel, 2001)

9) “If you can shrink the tumour 50% or more for 28 days you have got the FDA’s definition of an active drug. That is called a response rate, so you have a response..(but) when you look to see if there is any life prolongation from taking this treatment what you find is all kinds of hocus pocus and song and dance about the disease free survival, and this and that. In the end there is no proof that chemotherapy in the vast majority of cases actually extends life, and this is the GREAT LIE about chemotherapy, that somehow there is a correlation between shrinking a tumour and extending the life of the patient.” (Dr Ralph Moss, Ph.D)

10) “The majority of the cancer patients in this country die because of chemotherapy, which does not cure breast, colon or lung cancer. This has been documented for over a decade and nevertheless doctors still utilize chemotherapy to fight these tumors.” (Allen Levin, MD, UCSF, “The Healing of Cancer”, Marcus Books, 1990).

11) “As a chemist trained to interpret data, it is incromprehensible to me that physicians can ignore the clear evidence that chemotherapy does much, much more harm than good.” (Alan Nixon, Ph.D., Past President, American Chemical Society)

12) “If I were to contract cancer, I would never turn to a certain standard for the therapy of this disease. Cancer patients who stay away from these centers have some chance to make it.” (Prof. Gorge Mathe, “Scientific Medicine Stymied”, Medicines Nouvelles, Paris, 1989)

13) “After all, and for the overwhelming majority of the cases, there is no proof whatsoever that chemotherapy prolongs survival expectations. And this is the great lie about this therapy, that there is a correlation between the reduction of cancer and the extension of the life of the patient”. (Philip Day, “Cancer: Why we’re still dying to know the truth”, Credence Publications, 2000)

14) “The majority of publications equate the effect of chemotherapy with (tumour) response, irrespective of survival. Many oncologists take it for granted that response to therapy prolongs survival, an opinion which is based on a fallacy and which is not supported by clinical studies. To date there is no clear evidence that the treated patients, as a whole, benefit from chemotherapy as to their quality of life.” (Dr. Ulrich Abel.1990)

15) “Doctor Ulrich Able, a German epidemiologist of the Heidelberg Mannheim Tumor Clinic, has exhaustively analyzed and reviewed all the main studies and clinical experiments ever performed on chemotherapy…Able discovered that the comprehensive world rate of positive outcomes because of chemotherapy was frightening, because, simply, nowhere was scientific evidence available demonstrating that chemotherapy is able to ‘prolong in any appreciable way the life of patients affected by the most common type of organ cancer.’ Able highlights that rarely can chemotherapy improve the quality of life, and he describes it as a scientific squalor while maintaining that at least 80 per cent of chemotherapy administered in the world is worthless. Even if there is no scientific proof whatsoever that chemotherapy works, neither doctors nor patients are prepared to give it up.” (Lancet, Aug. 10, 1991).
- See more at: http://yournewswire.com/15-of-the-best-quotes-and-statements-on-why-cancer-treatment-kills-people/#sthash.Fw1nXid7.j9cTUlYG.dpuf

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How odd, the enlightened one LOL.
Ranting on about chemo, what happened to the Gerson con?
Medicine is a business, so what.

Charlotte Gerson claims that treatment at the clinic has produced high cure rates for many cancers. In 1986, however, investigators learned that patients were not monitored after they left the facility. Although clinic personnel later said they would follow their patients systematically, there is no published evidence that they have done so. Three naturopaths who visited the Gerson Clinic in 1983 were able to track 18 patients over a 5-year period (or until death) through annual letters or phone calls. At the 5-year mark, only one was still alive (but not cancer-free); the rest had succumbed to their cancer.

of course the Gerson therapy is for free, it's not a business, is it?

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Keep takin your pills unenlightened one lol

Do u by any chance work for the "cancer industry"

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I think Tony presents a valid perspective. I firmly believe any patient diagnosed with cancer of any sort, should do diligent research on their own. The internet affords many opportunities to answer questions and offer many different perspectives on treatments. Especially if recently diagnosed with early stages of PC. There are numerous respected specialists in the field of PC treatment who will confirm that in the relatively early stages of PC, there is no need to "jump" immediately on radical treatments. There is time to consider which treatment protocol is best for you. It is certainly within the realm of possibility to try natural treatments early on while researching and evaluating your own options. I think it is dangerous to "assume" that any one specialist is necessarily going to provide the only answer. One should take the responsibility to research on their own the possibilities and make an informed decision before they go into radical procedures. Evermore today, standard medical treatment is a machine. Important decisions are made relative to available accepted (meaning insurance will pay for the procedure) bottom lines. Depending on the area in which you live, a certain procedure may be pushed on the patient because the hospitals in that area have certain equipment and thus procedures utilizing that equipment are preferred. Regardless of treatment and procedure, an open mind and a questioning mind are your first options before ANY treatment is started. It costs nothing to do extensive research online. And, it may very well save your life as well as the quality of your life. Thanks in advance to the moderators for NOT removing Tony's posts. Question everything in life!

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Greetings

I'm Charley, and I've not posted except to update my bio, so I thought I'd jump in here. I really couldn't believe that cannabis would help with PC when I first read about it in 2008, so I went ahead with Proton Radiation at the time in Jacksonville, Fl., and finished that in Dec. 2008, just 6 years ago. (And I feel great, no complications!) Then I did some research since I had some experience with cannabis in college, and lo and behold, I learn that my government wasn't telling me the whole story. But that's all history now, as the States are turning away from Big Government, and making more of their own decisions.

I want to bring your attention to a newsletter from Holland I've been reading for years, that reports all the various cannabis research around the world. Here's the latest regarding cannabis and PC, from the IACM, and their subscription is free:


International Association for Cannabinoid Medicines

http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/bulletin/iacm.php

Science/Cells
Activation of the CB1 receptor induces cell death in prostate cancer cells
Treatments of prostate cancer cells with the endocannabinoids anandamide and 2-arachidonoyl glycerol induced apoptosis (programmed cell death) and this effect was mainly mediated by the cannabinoid-1 receptor. 
Institute of Biomedical Sciences, Faculty of Medicine, University of Chile, Santiago, Chile.
Orellana-Serradell O, et al. Oncol Rep. 2015 Jan 21. [in press]

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In the absence of peer reviewed properly conducted medical trials this is just another load of quackery. however sincere the writer may be. Beware!

OC in England (where we used to duck folk who peddled stuff like this)

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Hello Old Codger

This time you are wrong I will wager .... You do understand the US government's position and why it is untenable I hope. The science is being done now mostly overseas because of the US government's insistence upon not allowing research to be done. See below for IACM newsletter.

Please google Charlotte Figi, or Dravet's Syndrome, and allow your skepticism a break..... Here, I've got them saved:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyf-ffoatHg Gupta/Figi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2HYpnhNoKc Part 2


International Association for Cannabinoid Medicines

http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/bulletin/iacm.php

Science/Cells
Activation of the CB1 receptor induces cell death in prostate cancer cells
Treatments of prostate cancer cells with the endocannabinoids anandamide and 2-arachidonoyl glycerol induced apoptosis (programmed cell death) and this effect was mainly mediated by the cannabinoid-1 receptor. 
Institute of Biomedical Sciences, Faculty of Medicine, University of Chile, Santiago, Chile.
Orellana-Serradell O, et al. Oncol Rep. 2015 Jan 21. [in press]

Regards
coryn

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Hello Tony,

Yes, I've been following the fate of Cannabis medicines, and it has indeed been a tough row to hoe. Those who follow the history of cannabis know that it is one of the world's oldest medicines, used for thousands of years without the hysteria we now see around us. Just look at any Merck Manual before the 1930's for all the variety of cannabis medicines they developed.

I noticed that Tommy Chong said he had treated and cured his prostate cancer using cannabis, so I took a look at that, and I see that he did get in touch with Rick Simpson up in Canada, and made up an oil of high CBD cannabis, as did some other friends of Rick Simpson. So I did the research and found the Charlotte Figi story of cannabis and seizures from Dravet Syndrome epilepsy attacks. They found it works and reduced her seizures by 90%.

I find the US government has many ulterior motives for suppressing cannabis, and the fears of Harry Anslinger have permeated our population until cannabis has become a Schedule 1 drug, and doctors are prohibited to research it.

If cannabis becomes the medicine I think it should be, it will surely be in high demand. I've used it for PC and for Restless Leg Syndrome, headcolds and whatever.

Best wishes to you

charles coryn, 77, lancing, TN.

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Thanks Charles, some people like the old codger live in denial, scared to change the beliefs they were given. They just plod on with the instructions from their leaders and digest all that fox news, bbc etc feed them. So happy I can see threw the bull, and have cured my pc, without the deadly potions that big pharma dishes out, whilst lining their deep pockets.
People are waking up, and with the help of survivors like us, spreading the truth, many more will have long, healthy and drug free lives.

Well done buddy.

Here,s more proof the old codger + wont read.


http://youtu.be/eGQFAyzMWNg

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Thanks Tony

I like to collect the videos, especially the ones that are associated with doctors who have intimate experience with cannabis, who have seen it work. And when these cases are documented such that the physicians can reference them, then it will go better.

I don't mind being conservative, even wary, when someone suggests something new. It's all a matter of peer review and supporting documentation.

charley

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