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Re: A case to be made for estrogenic drugs in PCa therapy choices (links too)

Gidday Bob, I can understand your angst at the cost of medication in the USA, makes me grateful for the Pharmaceutical Benefits System we have here in Australia whereby most life saving/important drugs are subsidised so all may access them.

..................NOW as to your points

1.no comment
2.may even? therefore also may not.
3.as above
4.no comment
5.no comment except for quality control and dosage
6.anecdotal evidence only.One mans food is anothers poison.
7.overlook? you must be kidding, in the past it was used for regulation of the menstrual cycle and to prevent premature labor, it has been implicated in certain types of cancer e.g., cervical cancer in daughters of mothers who were given DES during pregnancy.Studies have shown that exposure to estrogenic compounds is probably a significant causal factor in the increased incidence of breast cancer and the steep decline in male sperm production.
8. very interesting I would like to know more, can you point me in the direction of any studies or trials?
9.see point 6
10.logical fallacy, "appeal to authority" a peer reviewed published study would be prefered. Dr lee also had EBRT. Ian Gawler has survived 35 years with bone cancer on a biodynamic diet and a meeting with the Dalai Lama? I know it is not pc but just as relevant.
11.no comment
12.no comment
13. not superstitious

Do not take ANY of this personaly,an enquiring mind will always DEMAND facts and evidence before making any MAJOR decision, particularly when faced with life threatening danger.
I can understand the cost factor has majored in your decision, that does not thankfully apply in Oz "The average cancer patient in the USA has a price value of around $500 thousand"
My own costs have run up a bill of $15,000, because I went private, had I chosen the public system it would have been much much lower, in the private system I get to choose my Urologist and Oncologist.

Re: A case to be made for estrogenic drugs in PCa therapy choices (links too)

Warwick thanks for ruining my otherwise wonderful life using this drug (maybe I have to overlook my results), I have done both ADT3 and this stuff...personally no one seems interested in patient results and their journey with anything... I guess we better call Dr. Lee on his results too, tell him , what were you thinking (idioso), or start a lawsuit against Dr. Premoli for treating all those patients with estradiol patches (es stupido), wonderful. I am glad you are not my doctor, love you otherwise as PCa patient and studier on such. Maybe Terry should just remove the whole thread....apparently it is totally unworthy. Why look at what someone else has done with some successes, the docs know it all in PCa. Let's have a thread on the virtues of Lupron and worship all of its effects only in positive lights. That is what the pharma companies are hoping. Gooday, maybe I will listen to music now by Colin Hay (Who Can It Be Now, DownUnder, Overkill)...I do like Men at Work songs,(fyi). (No Flame zone...maybe a bic lighter was used, no harm to you Warwick, everyone should have a say, including myself).

Re: A case to be made for estrogenic drugs in PCa therapy choices (links too)

Whoa! Whoa! No more of this sniping.

Bth parties have vallid views. There are very few good scientific studies to support either.

I intend leaving this thread on the Forum because there are some interesting views expressed, but I am locking it to prevent any flaming.


All the best

Terry in Australia

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