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Supplement + diet discussions

OK, OK, ya got to know that I eat lots of red meat, but not so much dairy. I do not handle sugar (any) or sugar substitutes (any) and MSG, and peanuts (to some extent), and gluten (remember UTT's). So that removes most prepared foods, all fruits, all deserts, breads and all prepared bottle drinks. I do not handle stimulants, coffee or tea very well, I can handle 1/2 beer/month with the pizza!(ya it has crust). I do not like fish, chicken does not give me sufficient energy, and I do not like fixing salads. This leaves grease (makes me sick), red meat, nuts, + rice cakes + lots of potatoes (how many ways can you fix potatoes?).
I exercise 1 hr/day 6 days/week. I am 6'1" & weigh 160 lbs. It is difficult for me to maintain sufficient energy to exercise. Now, toss in having to be very careful of what I breath, plus radiation induced colitis and YES, my kidney function is back to normal, I can sleep again. To travel I cut back on what I eat to reduce the #2 toilet trips to 3 or 4/day.
I am very happy to be alive.
Faith, hope & love,
Joe

Re: Supplement + diet discussions

God job Joe! I'd like to hang with you. Dave

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Stranger,

Good eye!

The abstract of the article is at: http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/17/12/3577

I thought that the 21 days was just the window for selecting test subjects. When I went to the article, it said "Men were on protocol an average of 30 days." Wow!

Sometimes what is written up for an abstract gives a wrong impression, so I e-mailed the doc (Dr. Wendy Denmark-Wahnefried), and asked if the effect was really that strong. She responded:

"Yes, yes did read it right and your question is a good one, but proliferation rate is a fairly sensitive measure - we also used a lot of flaxseed (over three T per day). Wdw"

It's rare that a doc will respond to such an inquiry, especially that quickly.

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I have in the past used lots of flax seed leading up to my PCa diagnoses, but no where near 30 gram/day. And of course no low fat diet.

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Steve Z,

Now since the time frame is clear can you help me understand what the test really did? I've read it several times and it looks like they did blood tests to start and again before surgery but the results of the tests I'm not really sure of.

The article said...

Tumors were assessed for proliferation (Ki-67, the primary endpoint) and apoptosis

...but how do you test a tumor before surgery?

The Stranger

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Stranger,

In response to UR last, my take was that they didn't - they just looked at removed glands for a specific biochemical marker that indicates how fast the tumor cells were dividing and looked at dead tumor cells to see how fast they were dying.

FMI, check out http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=81596 or e-mail Dr. Wendy - wdemarkw@mdanderson.org - she seems like a nice lady.

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Steve Z,

Thanks, your reply and the link cleared it up. Now I just need to eat 30 gm per day :-)

The Stranger

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Regularity shouldn't be an issue;-)

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Stranger.
Pick up a copy of the China Study by T Colin Cambel.
The largest research project in the world concerning diet. There is a significant corollation between the intake of animal protien, red meat and dairy, and the incidence of cancer, heart, and autoimune disease.
JohnT

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