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OTCO ADMIN
Apr 20, 07 - 12:00 PM |
Ask OTCO
Greetings, The purpose of this thread is to answer general questions regarding OTCO and what we do. If you have questions about any upcoming events, please see the appropriate thread within this forum. Thank you, OTCO |
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Jim Ramsey
Apr 25th, 2007 - 8:58 AM |
Re: Ask OTCO
Dear OTCO,I'M working getting my classII water oper.license. Failed it once. I also have taken my wastewater II and failed it also. I held a class II water licenses in W.V. for many years.Here is how they handled their training for oper. A 4day intense class was held than on the fifth day you were given our test. I know for me it was much easier to retain the info. for that period of time instead of the 6months you take to give a class. I was told in the one class i took of yours,That we are not here to help you pass the state exam but to make you a better oper. Guess what no pass no job. Give it a thought on trying it the way they do it in W.V. Thanks |
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Pat Antonelli
May 3rd, 2007 - 6:57 AM |
Re: Re: Ask OTCO
Jim, I am the Assistant Director of OTCO and have been teaching the Wastewater Courses since 1992. I began my wastewater career in April of 1971 and took my Wastewater I exam in June of 71. As expected I failed. I did not really know wastewater. What I took from that experience was like a scouting report. I saw how the test was presented and set my studying format toward that. I feel the tests were harder then because we did not have the references and the formula sheet which is now used. The following year I took OTCO Basic Wastewater Course and passed the State Exam the next time around. I took the Intermediate Course the following year but failed the State Class II Exam. I passed the theory section but failed the math. My brain just went dead. I knew how to solve the problems but just could not get it together. Again I saw how the test material was presented, prepared myself and got 90's in both sections. The following year I passed by Class III test. What I am getting at here is that OTCO instruction is setup to make the students more aware of the overall plant operation from a to z. Along the line we do make students aware of questions that they might see on the test but if we spent all the time on preparing for the test, how are they going to become prepared to maintain their plant when changes in operation are needed. Several years ago I had an individual in my Wastewater II Class from Pennsylvania who had a Class II Wastewater License. Ohio only recognized the Class I. He failed the course and the State test. I am not saying that this is you, but he did not prepare himself for the course or the test. It is almost impossible to fail a course that I teach. I have been involved with operators who have just used study material to prepare for the test and have never taken a course. They now have their Class III and do not understand the overall operation of the activated sludge at which they work. They know how to turn valves and take readings but he does not know how to apply the information. I feel that an operator is better prepared to work at any facility after taking a course, whether it is one of ours or someone elses. I have always told my students short cuts will not get you where you want to go. Be dedicated to the task at hand. Just how bad do you want it. All I can say is think positive, keep trying and learn from your failures. Nothing comes easy that really has meaning. You will prevail, I know you will. Please feel free to contact me at anytime. Pat |
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OTCO ADMIN
Apr 25th, 2007 - 9:39 AM |
Re: Ask OTCO
Thank you for your comment. You are correct that WV does have a different way of doing things... Unfortunately, this extend to more than just the testing organization. We are not the testing / certifying authority in Ohio. We are a separate organization that works closely with many of the certifying organizations in Ohio, but we do not decide how tests are taken or credit hours are earned. I agree that WV seems to get better results with their methods, but there are requirements that we must meet that are out of our control. The issue can be more complex than that, but that is my understanding in a nutshell. I will forward your suggestion on, and make sure that my (the web admin's) statement above is accurate. Thank you, and if you have further questions feel free to reply here or contact us directly. |
William Cox
Oct 29th, 2007 - 4:34 PM |
Re: Ask OTCO
Hello , I am wanting to become a class 1 and 2 waste water , now I have a associates degree in Science , just wondering what would be the proper classes to take , please email me at wcox97125@adelphia.net |
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William Cox
Oct 31st, 2007 - 7:01 AM |
Re: Ask OTCO
sorry its not waste water is the drinking water classes.. |
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Eric Stephan
Dec 11th, 2007 - 4:44 PM |
Re: Ask OTCO
I recently graduated college with a B.S. in Environmental Engineering. I’m working at a wastewater treatment plant and wanting to get my operator 1 license. I have seen that I need one year work experience. However, I have heard that some of your courses reduce the time of work experience needed. Is this true and which ones? Thanks Eric |
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T. J. Black
Mar 24th, 2008 - 7:47 PM |
Re: Ask OTCO
Are not the Water/Wastewater OEPA OPERATORS certifications-"licenses" regarded as more difficult/technical than the distribution/collections licenses? I've always assumed so, and, judging by the number of contact hours to renew each, it appears to be correct. Tell that to the politicians in the town I work for as a Class II WWTP Operator. They've proposed, in the interest of "fairness" and providing incentives for employees to obtain training, paying those who obtain a license--regardless of the type-- for the first time, an hourly bonus of twice what those of us who are already licensed. We get nothing additional. I'm not making this up...a new kid can get a dist. or collection license and get paid the same per-hour adjustment as an experienced plant operator. Does OTCO or the EPA have any info summarized that might help plead the case against this travesty? |
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